Blog Archives

Other Bloggers


Pete Fierle, Manager - Digital Media/Communications
Pete's familiarity with the game's history is a result of spending two decades working in the Hall's archives surrounded by the world's largest collection of pro football information. His many duties include overseeing the Hall's website as well as the day-to-day operation of the Archives & Information Center.

Super Bowl (minus) II Friday, July 24, 2009

10:05 a.m. ET

Our fan poll on the home page has certainly drawn some attention.

The question asks who would have won the Super Bowl had it existed in 1964.

In the NFL that season Cleveland finished 10-3-1 to capture the Eastern Conference title. The Browns earned a showdown against the Western Conference Baltimore Colts (12-2-0). Cleveland crushed the Colts 27-0 to win the NFL title.

Meanwhile, in the “other league,” the Bills posted the best record at 12-2-0 to win the AFL’s Eastern Division. Buffalo hosted the Western Division champion San Diego Chargers (8-5-1). The Bills took care of business with a convincing 20-7 win over the Chargers.

So, who would have won in the Super Bowl if it existed? So far, fans in our poll have overwhelmingly picked the Cleveland Browns from the NFL over the AFL’s Buffalo Bills.

One our Board of Selectors members, Mark Gaughan of the Buffalo News wrote about our poll question on Thursday. He shared: 

"We would have won, hands down," Bills cornerback Booker Edgerson told me a few years ago.

Said Bills HOFer Billy Shaw: "I've said it many times before - of the AFL champions prior to the Super Bowl, that was probably the team that could have really played with NFL champions. We matched up really good with them. I’d have loved to have had that opportunity."

Mark’s comments prompted me to call his counterpart in Cleveland, Tony Grossi of the Cleveland Plain Dealer for his perspective.


 1 of 2 
 
Cleveland's Jim Brown
 
“The Browns would have trounced the 1964 Bills,” the veteran writer shared with me this morning. “I say that as evidenced by how the Browns dominated what was thought to be the NFL’s best team that year, the Colts.

“That ’64 championship game produced probably one of the best games in franchise history. As such, no question the Browns would have dominated had one more game been played that season.”

Regardless of who would have won, I think that would have been a classic Super Bowl featuring a showdown between each league’s leading rushers that season. The game would have focused on two great runners who had similar styles – the legendary Hall of Fame running back Jim Brown vs. one of the AFL’s most punishing runners at the time, fullback Cookie Gilchrist of the Bills. Incidentally, leading the way for both runners would have been a Hall of Fame guard -- Gene Hickerson for Cleveland and Billy Shaw for Buffalo.

 



Brown, Jim, Hickerson, Gene, Shaw, Billy, Buffalo Bills Cleveland Browns

comment Comment (0)

Recent Comments
    New UserReturning
    First time posting? A confirmation email will be sent to you after submitting.



    Your Comments



    Your email address is required to confirm your comments. Email addresses are never displayed to other users and they are not used for any other purposes other than blog comments.

    Once you enter your email address, name, and comment, you will be emailed a link to confirm your comment. Additionally, you will be sent a password. In the future, if you wish to leave other comments, use the password that is provided in the email.