Guy, Humphrey named as 2014 finalists

08/21/2013

Punter Ray Guy and defensive end Claude Humphrey were named today by the Pro Football Hall of Fame’s Seniors Committee as finalists for election into the Hall of Fame with the Class of 2014.

Guy and Humphrey will join 15 yet-to-be-named modern-era candidates on the list of finalists from which the Class of 2014 will be selected. The Hall of Fame selection meeting will be held on Feb. 1, 2014, the day before Super Bowl XLVIII in New York/New Jersey.

Guy became the first punter ever drafted in the first round when the Oakland Raiders selected him as the 23rd overall pick of the 1973 NFL Draft. He earned All-Pro accolades six straight times from 1973 to 1978 and was named to seven Pro Bowls.

He averaged 40 yards per punt in all but one of his 14 seasons. In 207 career games, he punted 1,049 times for 44,493 yards for a career average of 42.4 yards. He also was noted for his precision as he dropped punts inside the 20-yard-line 209 times from 1976 through his retirement after the 1986 season. Data for that statistic was not available during his first three years. Guy was named to the NFL’s All-Decade Team of the 1970s.

Humphrey, who was nominated as a senior candidate in 2009, was selected as the third player overall in the 1968 draft by the Atlanta Falcons and was named the NFL’s Defensive Rookie of the Year.

Although the sack did not become an official statistic until 1982, Humphrey is unofficially credited as having 122 career sacks during his career with the Falcons (1968-1978) and Philadelphia Eagles (1979-1981).

Humphrey, a five-time All-Pro and six-time Pro Bowl pick, battled back from a potential career-ending knee injury that forced him to miss the entire 1975 season. He responded by recording a career-high 15 sacks in 1976. He capped his career with three final seasons in Philadelphia. In 1980, he led the Eagles with a club-high 14.5 sacks as the Eagles won the NFC championship to earn a berth in Super Bowl XV.

Guy and Humphrey must receive the same 80 percent voting support that is required of all finalists. The Hall’s Selection Committee can elect a maximum of two senior candidates and five modern-era candidates for a class no smaller than four or larger than seven.

The Seniors Committee is comprised of nine members of the overall selection committee. Through mail vote, the 2014 senior nominees were reduced to a final list of candidates. Today, five members of the Seniors Committee met at the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton to discuss each of the senior finalists. A senior nominee is an individual whose career ended at least 25 years ago.

The Pro Football Hall of Fame’s Class of 2014 will be formally enshrined during the Pro Football Hall of Fame Enshrinement Festival in Canton, Ohio next August.

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  • WPIAL Proud - December 11 2013 10:57 AM

    bachslunch well stated.

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  • bachslunch - November 23 2013 02:11 PM

    Other thoughts: Cosme, I have no problem with Claude Humphrey being elected before Tommy Nobis since refusing Humphrey a second time as a Senior will pretty much ensure he never gets nominated again -- he got the nod over Nobis, so I say get him in while we can. And if MLBs from the 60s-70s weren't so heavily represented in Canton, I could see a better case for Nobis (he and Lee Roy Jordan are arguably the best not in) -- but I say OLBs need better representation first. Phillip, comparing Ken Stabler to earlier QBs like Layne, Tittle, Starr, and Van Brocklin doesn't work unless one adjusts for era, Namath is arguably the weakest HoF QB (comparisons to the worst in doesn't help the case) and Griese (2), Bradshaw (4), and Aikman (3) all won more SBs with at least very good stats. Better comparisons to Stabler are Joe Theismann and Phil Simms - both have very good career stats and 1 SB win, and neither have ironclad HoF cases. Kip, agree that Kenny Anderson should be in the HoF, but not Ken Riley. Riley has a ton of lifetime INTs in a long career, but was a 1st team all-pro only once and never made a single pro bowl. A much better Bengal DB to campaign for is Lemar Parrish, who was a 1st team all-pro 3 times, went to 8 pro bowls, and was a world-class kick returner. Marilyn, Charles Haley is not Senior-eligible. John B., Otis Taylor is caught in a huge backlog of WR Senior snubs including Mac Speedie, Billy Howton, Billy Wilson, Del Shofner, Lionel Taylor, Art Powell, Cliff Branch, Drew Pearson, Harold Jackson, and Harold Carmichael, all of whom have strong arguments. WPIAL Proud, Andy Russell is caught in a similar logjam problem for 60s-70s OLBs with the very deserving Maxie Baughan, Chuck Howley, Joe Fortunato, Larry Grantham, and Robert Brazile, not to mention folks like Mike Curtis and Bill Bergey.

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  • bachslunch - November 23 2013 01:38 PM

    Agreed that Mick Tingelhoff belongs in the HoF, but Jim Marshall simply does not. Tingelhoff was arguably the best NFL center of the 1960s, a 1st team all-pro 7 times who went to 6 pro bowls. By contrast, Marshall was never once named to an all-pro 1st team by any organization and made the pro bowl only twice in his 20 year career. If elected, he would have the worst such numbers of any HoF DL by a long shot. For most of his career, Marshall was the 3rd best DL on his own team, behind HoF-ers Alan Page and Carl Eller. And Eller wasn't voted in until his last eligible year and 13th time as a finalist. Only Lynn Swann was a finalist more times (14) before getting elected. This might suggest that the HoF voters consider Eller a borderline HoF-er, and if so, that leaves Marshall at Hall of the Very Good level. For the record, "1st team all pro/pro bowl" postseason honors for Page are 6/9, for Eller 5/6, for Marshall 0/2. Mighty big gulf there.

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  • bachslunch - November 23 2013 01:26 PM

    The idea that the Raiders get shafted at HoF time doesn't stand up to scrutiny -- of the old AFL teams, there are 13 HoF-ers who played a good bit of their career as a Raider, more than KC (10), Miami (9), Buffalo (8), Tenn/Hou (8), SD (7), NYJets (5), NE/Boston (4), Denver (4), and Cincy (1). That said, I very much think Raider Senior-eligibles Cliff Branch, Ray Guy, and Dave Grayson belong in. Regularly eligible Tim Brown will likely wait a while before finally and deservedly getting elected, as the HoF is tough on WRs generally.

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  • Tom Matthews - November 20 2013 09:08 PM

    It is obscene that Jerry Kramer is not included. He should have been in the HOF years ago. Many of the names are truly worthy, but it is offensive that you have not included number 64. It taints the Hall's credibility. #HOF14

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  • henry - November 18 2013 05:59 PM

    I agree with Mr. Eagers post (11/12/13) that Jim marshall should be in the hall. Mick Tinglehoff also should be in there. I can't help but love Ray Guy and hope he gets in,but these two iron type linemen should be in the hof

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  • John Bazelewich - November 16 2013 12:11 PM

    Everybody has an opinion, which all may have some merrit, but how in the world can Otis Taylor not have been enshrined. I hold out hope every year that the senior committe would correct this injustice, and it hasn't happened. I thought the Hall was for the best, most dominating players in their era, and in the mid 60s & early 70s,Otis was one of the best, ranking right up there with Lance Allwoth, Bob Hayes & Don Maynard. Who was better? It's almost as if he has been blackballed for some unknown reason. I amm really, honestly at a loss.

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  • Fred - November 12 2013 10:31 AM

    Al Wistert is probably the biggest snub in the Hall of Fame. Why not get him in while he's still alive? He was one of the greats of his time and he's one of the last links to the NFL In the 40s. Also, the Eagles are really underrepresented in the Hall.

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  • Robert K. Eager - November 12 2013 08:38 AM

    I would like to know, why Former Minnesota Vikings Defensive Lineman, Jim Marshall, is not already, in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Also, given the long history, of the NFL, I do not understand, why so few players, are awarded, into the Pro Football Hall of Fame, each year. Last year, only 7 players got in, and I feel that there should be more, each year.

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  • Fred - November 11 2013 11:02 AM

    Al Wistert is probably the biggest snub in the Hall of Fame. Why not get him in while he's still alive? He was one of the greats of his time and he's one of the last links to the NFL In the 40s. Also, the Eagles are really underrepresented in the Hall.

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  • Brent Craft - November 07 2013 02:46 PM

    Jerry Kramer is overdue. you have Paul Hornung who ran the ball but you dont have the guy that blocked for him thats ridiculous

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  • RICK O'SHEA - November 03 2013 06:50 AM

    It's time for the Hall to enshrine Ray Guy,Charles Haley,Roger Craig,the late L.C.Greenwood, and Claude Humphrey.The omission of Jerry Kramer is just criminal.

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  • Bob - October 11 2013 12:40 PM

    I totally agree with Eric. Our past athletes were true professionals, playing the game for the love of it. working a second job to support themselves and family. Just ask today's jocks, and they will tell you, "I'm an Entertainer". Who needs these people, surly, not the HOF!!!

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  • gmuny2002 - October 08 2013 11:18 AM

    I think it's a horrible injustice especially since he just passed on that L.C. Greenwood is not in the HOF!

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  • WPIAL Proud - October 07 2013 11:47 AM

    I concur with all of the suggested players that should be in the HOF. For one moment, just consider this omission, Andy Russell of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Andy played 12 seasons (1963-76) with the Steelers and was a 7-time Pro Bowler. However, Andy lost two of his prime years 1964 and 1965 due to serving his Country during the Vietnam war. Wow!

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  • tkamnick - September 18 2013 11:12 AM

    I have believed for a long time that Ray Guy belongs in the NFL Hall of Fame. However, the one name that stands out over and over again is Jerry Kramer! A player with all the accomplishments and accolades that Kramer has, overwhelmingly belongs in the NFL Hall of Fame. It is time that the NFL HOF correct a long time mistake. I for one have been to the HOF but will not return until this mistake is corrected!!! Someone out there please tell me why Jerry Kramer is not a member of the Hall!

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  • Eric Penn - September 16 2013 07:11 PM

    Otis Taylor should have been in the Hall of Fame, he was the first real physical WR, made pro bowls and has a ring. He held every Chiefs record. This is a total joke, get him in!

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  • Dean Dickman - September 12 2013 08:16 AM

    Come on man!! Jerry Kramer is a hall a famer in my book. This man belongs in the HOF.

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  • bachslunch - August 30 2013 09:18 AM

    Will join those who are happy to see Claude Humphrey and Ray Guy get the Senior nominations this time around. Here's hoping they do the right thing and elect both these highly deserving players -- not doing so earlier has only clogged up the Senior pool and prevented other worthy candidates from a chance this time around. Agreed that Jerry Kramer, L.C. Greenwood, Mick Tingelhoff, Donnie Shell, Al Wistert, Johnny Robinson, Jim Tyrer, and Ken Anderson (among countless others) have excellent arguments -- but with only two open slots per year, such folks will have to wait and hope they get their due later on.

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  • kip hudson - August 28 2013 11:28 PM

    Kenny Anderson and ken riley have better numbers then most of the hall of fame greats at their respected positions well you say Cincinnati never won a superbowl neither did dan fouts nor did jim Kelly or dan marino and in certain categories Kenny Anderson smoked those guys ...with ken riley he is 5th in nfl history with interceptions and is not in the hall of fame but 9 out of ten cornerbacks with the most interceptons are in the hall of fame so how did 6,7,8,9,10. make it into the hall and not #5all time interception leaders

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  • Cosme - August 28 2013 09:17 AM

    Jim dunn: You are correct. Tommy Nobis, the first great Falcon, should be in the Hall before Claude Humphrey. I am not disagreeing that Humphrey should be inducted...but before tommy Nobis???

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  • David - August 26 2013 02:33 PM

    I am happy for Ray and Claude; they both belong in the Hall. There were times when Claude was unstoppable... How can Jerry Kramer not be in the HOF? He is the only member of the 1969 50th anniversary team not voted in. Kramer has been a finalist 10 times. No. 64 was a finalist in 1974, 1975, 1976, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1984, 1987 and 1997. Why Kramer has not been inducted into the Hall is quite perplexing. Kramer was a five-time All-Pro and named to three Pro Bowls. He was also on the NFL All-Decade for the 1960s.

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  • Ronald Irvin Simmons - August 26 2013 11:35 AM

    Congratulations to Ray Guy and Claude Humphrey. Those two names bring back a lot of memories from the "any given Sunday" NFL.

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  • seth mcconnell - August 23 2013 05:41 PM

    I WOULD LOVE TO SEE CLAUDE HUMPHERY AND TOMMY NOBIS FINALLY GET IN.I KNOW THEIR ARE MANY PLAYERS AND COACHES TO GET ELECTED.PLEASE VOTE THEM IN,AND DON CORYELL HE NEEDS TO BE THERE AS WELL.

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  • seth - August 23 2013 05:41 PM

    I WOULD LOVE TO SEE CLANDE HUMPHERY AND TOMMY NOBIS FINALLY GET.PLEASE ELCET THEM IN.

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  • max - August 23 2013 12:22 PM

    Ahhh.... let the annual bitch fest begin ! First , at least the HOF got something right. Regardless of the fact that Ray Guy deserved to have been inducted into the HOF YEARS AGO at least he was nominated as a Senior in his first year of eligibilty and not made to wait for ...who knows when. The numbers Ray put up are brought into question when compared or cross- referenced against other more current players. But numbers do not always tell the whole truth and this really " Grinds My Gears". Using stats as strictly a measure of a players success or effectivness is a poor barometer indeed. Ray Guy is a Hall of Famer. This is clear as day. You hear pundits ask this fundamental question : " Did they change the way the game was played ? " Yes, he did. As far as Big Claude: I kind of find it a little insulting that he apparently wasn't considered good enough 4 YEARS AGO as a Sr. Nominee but is today? This happened to Dick Stanfel a couple years ago and he wasn't inducted a 2cd time by the commitee. That is mind boggling. I believe Big Claude will be inducted and have always felt he was certainly worthy. As are the many other men who COULD have been nominated had they got it right the first time and elected Claude in 2009. Both of these guys are HOFers. pretty simple.Of couse so is Jerry Kramer. I mean, come on. At this point it is just poor, embarressing stewardship. As a matter of fact I believe the Seniors should just be elected in and not have to go through the final finalist round ( which they automatically qualify for anyway ). Congratulations to both of these guys.

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  • marilyn - August 22 2013 03:51 PM

    charles haley, de, dallas cowboys, the only player to win 5 super bowl rings, is not in the HOF, this is a travesty.

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  • Chuck P - August 22 2013 12:20 PM

    Congrats to Humphrey and Guy! Well deserved and long overdue. I was so fortunate to watch them play even though they were not on my favorite teams. So many others deserve to be in the HOF. Those mentioned above and many other so called "Old Timers". I hope they will eventually get their due and be inducted. Personally, I would like to see SF QB John Brodie (#12)in the HOF. I am not a 49er fan but John Brodie put up some good numbers during his stint with the Niners and was one of the best QBs of one of the best QB classes in any era.

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  • Cody - August 22 2013 12:11 PM

    Ray Guy BETTER get in this year

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  • Robert - August 22 2013 12:01 PM

    Ray Guy has an award named after him for goodness sake ...he changed football, certainly the emphasis on the kicking game and special teams as a strategy. This guy strategically and surgically placed punts, with awesome hang time that got everyone’s attention and to notice the possibilities of this aspect of the game. Ray Guy is way past due on being entered into the HOF!

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  • Leon Colwin - August 22 2013 01:00 AM

    Donnie Shell has more interceptions as a strong safety than anyone else in NFL history. Yet he's not in the Hall of Fame. L.C. Greenwood ran wild in Super Bowl IX. He chased Fran Terkenton all over the field and batted away pass after pass. Greenwood thoroughly defeated Ron Yary who is in the Hall of Fame. The next year, Greenwood sacks Roger Staubach four times. Many of these sacks came at critical times and put Dallas out of field goal range. Pittsburgh won Super Bowl X by four points and without Greenwood they would have lost Furthermore, Greenwood beat Rayfield Wright for those four sacks. Rayfield Wright is in the Hall of Fame as well. Greenwood dominates two Hall of Famers in successive Super Bowls, yet L.C. is not in the Hall of Fame. What would he have to do?

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  • tj945 - August 21 2013 11:01 PM

    Guys you are killing me. I was banking on Kramer because you guys talked him up for the last couple of days so I chased down a Kramer RC. He didn't make it, not that it is a bad card but what the heck. LOL. I already have Humphrey & Guy so I am doing ok.

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  • Jaranda - August 21 2013 09:56 PM

    Ken Stabler is a borderline candidate to begin with and you can't compare Stabler to lets say Namath as Namath left a extremely lasting contribution to football despite his stats. I was a bit surprised Ray Guy was selected this soon by the Veterans Committee, who I thought was trying to work on the backlog of 50s/60s/early 70s players who aren't induced yet before they died. (Jerry Kramer, Johnny Robinson, Jake Scott, Tommy Nobis and Alex Karras are the five most cited ones, but Karras passed away last year). That is also supposedly the main reason why Alan Amache, Gene Lipscomb, Jim Tyrer, and Harvey Martin are being bypassed by the committee, despite HOF credentials, all of whom died too long ago though in the case of Lipscomb and Tyrer their deaths likely played a factor while Martin drug use and Ameche shortish career could have played factors as well. With the selection of Guy, he's as close to 100% as could be to be inducted, considering all the controversy over the years on why he kept being overlooked, with a greater appropriation of special teams the past decade. Claude Humphrey is part of the 60s/early70s backlog, but selecting another defensive lineman a year after the induction of Culp is rather questionable and Kramer or Robinson should have been the second selection there, or to throw an old name, Al Wistert of the 1940s Eagles who is 92 years old. Tingelhoff is a victim of playing at the wrong time as he played at the same time as Otto, Ringo, and Langer, and soon after Mike Webster and Dwight Stephenson revolutionized that position at the time Tingelhoff was a candidate for election. He will get in eventually, but it would take a while.

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  • Don Lopaze - August 21 2013 09:04 PM

    There is something really wrong with the NFL Hall of Fame selection process. I wish someone with some balls needs to stand up and call these voters out. Jerry Kramer is a Hall of Famer as a football player and as a human being. Someone or group needs to fix this selection process fast.

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  • Jeffrey Seibold - August 21 2013 08:27 PM

    What about C. Mick Tingelhoff? In his 17 years 240 games played he never missed a start! What a crime this mans stats are just as good or better than some of the centers that are in. He played in the same era as Jim Otto and Jim Ringo to name a few.

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  • jess easley - August 21 2013 06:51 PM

    if you are a Raider you get half to wait till your almst dead to get in or you get shafeted look at Tim brown

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  • jess easley - August 21 2013 06:49 PM

    It is plain and simple if you played for Oakland you get shafted just look at Tim Brown .....

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  • jess easley - August 21 2013 06:39 PM

    It is plain and simple if you played for Oakland you get shafted just look at Tim Brown .....

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  • ellen - August 21 2013 06:09 PM

    Too bad Ray Guy had to wait until he got on the Senior list for HOF. As long as you work for the NFL Network you get into the HOF? I find a little strange that within the last 5 years the current players that recently got into the HOF were on the NFL Network, and NFL on ESPN. Deon Sanders, Marshall Faulk, Rod Woodson, Michael Irvin, Emmitt Smith, Jerry Rice, Bill Parcells, Chris Carter and Warren Sapp. Granted poor Chris Carter had to wait longer than 5 years. Now they are advertising the NFL Football life and they are going to have Michael Strahan (FOX)and LaDanian Tomlinson (NFL Network). NFL Network analysts are really starting early of pushing for Tomlinson to get into the HOF and he's only been out for two years. They keep saying like with Warren Sapp, future Hall of Famer.

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  • Rod - August 21 2013 05:55 PM

    Mick Tinglehoff should be there. 240 games/240 starts. No one does that anymore. Too many crybabies.

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  • Matt Robertson - August 21 2013 05:50 PM

    Ray Guy certainly deserves to be the first punter ever inducted into the Pro Football Hall of fame !!! Not sure why punters haven't gotten in yet, but, this one should be FIRST !!!

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  • Robert Young - August 21 2013 05:44 PM

    I spent a lot of years despising the Raiders and none more so than Ray Guy. In any field position game, he was the ultimate. The Raiders would gain from 8 to 12 (or more) yards with every exchange of punts. Man I hated him and I think it's a profound travesty that he's not in the Hall.

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  • eric - August 21 2013 05:29 PM

    Selection should be a max of 5 senior candidates to 2 modern era candidates, not the format that it's set in. I think it's ridiculous how lopsided the selection is to modern era players. It's like a popularity contest. It would be so much better for the game, in my opinion, to have more senior players selected each year. It's a privilege and these young guys can wait a few more years. Kids today could learn a bit more about the history of the game and the guys that built the league up. They always sell it on the modern, guys. It tunes people in. I get it, but don't agree. All are deserving, I believe, but some can certainly wait. Pretty ridiculous that the likes of some of the names above are still waiting to get in and have such a small window each year.

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  • Thom - August 21 2013 05:26 PM

    It is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay past time for Ray.

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  • Donnell Heckstall - August 21 2013 04:53 PM

    What does L.C. Greenwood have to do to be inducted. He played on the greatest defensive line (The Steel Curtain) in pro football history. How is it that only one (Mean Joe Greene)is the only one represented. He has four super bowl rings and beat Minnesota which has two HOF representives (Alan Page, Carl Eller), help dominate the Houston Oilers who have two HOF's (Elvin Bethea, Curly Culp). I don't know if too many from one team profile is happening, but it's wrong. Donnie Shell also for some reason is being overlooked also.

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  • brad anderson - August 21 2013 02:46 PM

    Jerry Kramer snubbed again!There is no justice.Five rings,four books,all-decade,if anyone deserves the Hall-of-Fame,he does.All Packer fans everywhere know this is one of the greatest insustices of all time!!!

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  • qdrone - August 21 2013 02:43 PM

    Ray Guy holds an NFL record that will never be broken. Not one of his punts or kick offs were returned for a TD. That's right Ray was not only a punter and kicker but he was also a punishing tackler. He was the last guy they had to get past to score and NO ONE EVER DID. He deserves to be in the hall,he is who every punter in the NFL past and present compared them self too.

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  • Fred Linger - August 21 2013 02:37 PM

    No Jerry Kramer. As Lombardi would say, "What the hell is going on out there?!"

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  • Jim Dunn - August 21 2013 02:28 PM

    How is it that Tommy Nobis isn't in the HOF?

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  • Cosme - August 21 2013 02:14 PM

    First, I would like to extend my congratulations to Ray Guy and Claude Humphrey. Claude Humphrey should have been in the HOF a long time ago, and I hope the election committee does not diss him as they did a few years ago. However, it is plain to me that Jerry Kramer is being blackballed by the sports writers who do the electing out of spite and envy. Jerry Kramer did what many of them only dream of doing: writing an all time classic book about pro football...in addition to several other well received books about pro football. On Kramer's record, he should have been in the HOF thirty years ago. Simple as that. Sadly, he will be dead before he is selected. There are eleven Lombardi era Packers is the HOF. The entire starting backfield (Starr, Hornung and Taylor) is in the HOF with only two offensive lineman enshrined with them: Jim Ringo and Forrest Gregg. How can this be? Jim Ringo, the center, only played on two of the five NFL championship Lombardi teams. Kramer led the most famous play in 1960's football - the power sweep. Five time all pro, a member of the all 1960's team, voted by the Hall of Fame Committee to be the guard on the all time 50 year team, five time NFL champion, the substitute kicker, scoring 10 points during the 1962 championship game, and Jerry Kramer is not in the Hall? Lombardi called him the finest guard in football. when Kramer suffered injuries, the Packers did not make the playoffs. The tenth commandment is "Thou shall not covet." Sadly, the sportswriters which make up the voting committee suffer from covetous: they covet Jerry Kramer's success as a writer...and are punishing him for his success. So sad. So very, very sad.

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  • Fred Linger - August 21 2013 02:10 PM

    No Jerry Kramer. As Lombardi would say, "What the hell is going on out there?!"

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  • Shawn - August 21 2013 02:08 PM

    Jerry Kramer getting snubbed again is an embarrassment to the Hall of Fame and the Seniors Committee. Who is blocking his nomination?

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  • Don - August 21 2013 02:06 PM

    Agree totally with Mark. What did Jerry Kramer have to do? Still the only member of the All-50th Anniversary Team not to be in the Hall. Did he make someone angry somewhere? Are the sportswriters just jealous that he wrote a couple of best selling football books? I always suspected that this HOF was a joke when compared to others...now I know it.

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  • Phillip Woods - August 21 2013 01:52 PM

    Another year and Ken Stabler snubbed again. Better career passer rating than Bradshaw.. Bobby Layne.. Joe Namath.. Y.A. Tittle... Norm Van Brocklin.. they are in the HOF... more yards than Namath..Starr..Staubach..Griese. More carrer Tds thrown than Namath..Starr.. Staubach..Griese..Aikman. Stabler was on the all 70s team... Mvp one year.. On and on.. "holy roller".. "ghost to the post"..etc. Oh yea.. and he won a SUPER BOWL!!! What does a guy have to do???

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  • Mark - August 21 2013 01:28 PM

    What is wrong with you people! No Jerry Kramer again! YOU HAVE NO CREDIBILITY AT ALL!

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